CanaryCast … Clio’s and Janet’s English Time podcasts

1 October: This is from Clio herself, an explanation that I didn’t feel was my place to give, and a reassurance that we’ll be back very soon!

Janet Anscombe and I have paused our podcasts for a short while. Last week I had a long awaited spinal fusion operation which is fairly major, so I’m kinda out of the loop for a wee while, and on sick leave from the Adeje Town Hall. However I will be back as soon as i can be and my colleagues will monitor things. We hope to resume podcasting sooner rather than later too … and there is so much to talk about. Stay safe everyone.

28 September: I’ve had a few enquiries now so I thought it best to repeat (see last update below) that we have had to put CanaryCast on hold for a short while for practical reasons. We will be back as soon as possible, and I’ll update this post with the next podcast as soon as we do it. Just keep watching this website or the Adeje Town Hall page on Facebook or the FOCUS Group Facebook group: we’ll be updating all of them with news of when we resume. It won’t be long!

14 September:  HERE & HERE – school’s back, so is Brexit, and covid’s still here but in the future we mightn’t be because as a species we might be on Mars … & a Spanish-made device for the Mars Rover was tested on Teide last week! And local star Agoney, of course …

We have to put CanaryCast on hold for a couple of weeks for practical reasons. Clio will explain as soon as possible, but just as soon as we can, we’ll be back. Just keep watching this website or the Adeje Town Hall page on Facebook or the FOCUS Group Facebook group: we’ll be updating all of them with news of when we resume. It won’t be long!

7 September: HERE & HERE – the heat is on, not just covid and brexit but a real heatwave, and a forest fire alert. Through September we will be doing just the one a week, on a Monday, unless something important happens … and given what’s going on right now, we’ll all surely hope nothing major occurs! (Sorry for the sound quality but it was a zoom recording with internet interrupted by the weather … apologies!).

3 September: HERE & HERE – education, hospitals, and communication (or lack of!) … and Germany’s decision to put the Canaries on the no fly list.

31 August: HERE & HERE – the heatwave has now gone but the virus remains and is being policed by plain clothes officers now … and decisions about schools still in the pipeline …

27 August: HERE & HERE – collecting the new TIE from the police, the heatwave, and Brexit and the trade talks in view of the Irish Trade Commissioner’s resignation.

24 August: HERE & HERE – forest fires in a heatwave, fear as covid numbers go up sharply, the view from the tourist sector, and how the councils are helping people apply for emergency aid

20 August: HERE & HERE – smoking, masks, conspiracists, confusion, fear … one day we’ll smile …

17 August: HERE & HERE – rules, rules and more rules, about masks, smoking and more … and how some might get a grip, grow up, and learn the difference between inconvenience and oppression.

13 August: HERE & HERE – really quite a bit different today! Clio, Karen Cochrane and me, focused, but not fixated (!) on mental health.

10 August: HERE & HERE –  clouds, stars, rumours and Quarantennials.

6 August: HERE & HERE – more masks, Canarian covid insurance, Swallows and long-term stays, and how La Gomera is bucking the downward tourism trend!

3 August: HERE & HERE – a tiny bit of Covid and Brexit but mainly it’s Tenerife rural life and this afternoon’s Barley Moon! RIP too to John Hume, and a look ahead to a bodega visit …

30 July: HERE & HERE – waves versus tides, Canarian preparations for que va a pasar (what’s coming), the new normal redefined, consistency and clarity in a time of increasing divergence and fraying cohesion … sorry, it’s not the lightest today but it’s keeping it real.

27 July: HEREHERE – the only story in town today, the UK saying the Canaries is a safe destination but making those returning go into quarantine all the same.

23 July: HERE (or HERE) – pateras and playas, and numbers … of covid cases going up and drownings thankfully not going up, and in fact didn’t go up by at least one yesterday thanks to a Callao Salvaje lifesafer! And a new logo too!

20 July: HERE (alternative link HERE) – personal responsibility to balance democratic rights in a public health emergency, more on the new TIE, and it’s been a very hot weekend!

16 July:  HERE (alternative link HERE) – tourism and tourist concerns, yesterday’s island-wide power cut, the Race for the Cure – this year’s Walk for Life in a different way, and the new name for our podcast has been chosen at last!

13 July: HERE – bit of a darker one, perhaps, today … turismofobia, masks, conspiracy theories, patera refugees’ tests and processing … hopefully Thursday’s will be a bit lighter! Alternative link is HERE.

9 July: HERE – a CovExitCast … we’re morphing! Covid19, tourism, and the new TIE as far as we know to date. It can also be listened to on twitter HERE if there’s a problem with the link.

6 July: HERE – a plea to returning tourists, the current heatwave, and the new TIE with details from the Consul for southern Spain and the Canaries herself. If you find the link problematic (I have, myself), it should work here:

2 July: HERE –  Clio’s and my latest podcast … tourism safety measures in a time of covid, the new TIE, and the new Eurovision film … well you have to live a bit, though some might think it’s not life as we know it, Jim (Star Trek reference in case anyone’s unaware!)!!

29 June: HERE – Canarian president proposes new covid test for all visitors to the region’s airports as some ponder if we’re opening up to tourists too soon, and the Parador hotels, and some concerning information about British nationals registering as resident in what’s left of the Brexit Transition Period.

25 June: HERE – the royal visit and a “banana economy” (not a banana republic!), tourism and its future evolution, and how Tenerife lives away from the areas most visitors see. And schools out, for summer! Anyone else remember that Alice Cooper anthem when they were leaving school?

22 June: HERE – tourists return, freedom with controls, and summer entertainment in place of the cancelled season of fiestas.

18 June: HERE – confusion over British visitors, allowed or not? with or without quarantine? thermographic cameras in airports and the massive new national tourism investment … and the national memorial service for all the lost ones, and today we lost Vera Lynn as well. For all of them, we’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when, but we will meet again, one sunny day.

15 June: HERE – next Sunday it’s all happening! Canaries goes from phase 3 to New Normal, estado de alarma is lifted, Spain’s borders are reopening … but not to everyone, and we’re about to get a royal visit too!

11 June: HERE – tourism in the new normal and beyond, sustainability and intelligent destinations, the same way forward from councils to the King of Spain himself.

8 June: HERE – Phase 3, the new normal, tourism, and the lost summer fiestas.

(edit: I’ve found this link problematic so if you do too, try this here: )

4 June: HERE – Princess of Asturias Award, Michael O’Leary, UK quarantine and European travel, Phase 3 and the end of the estado de alarma, and the Law for the New Normal.

1 June: HERE – finger prick covid tests, tourism, phase 3 and the way forwards.

28 May: HERE – crowd control, beaches again, tourism restarts and ideas for saving jobs and getting people back to work.

25 May: HERE – Beaches, pools, social responsibility, the very nature of the liberal democratic social contract, and how the Canaries is paying homage to us and all Canarians on Saturday’s Día de Canarias.

21 May HERE – Today’s pod- covid- twit- whatevercast … the big rush to normal, emergency help, swimming pools, and masks … and drippy sweaty runners … ewww …

18 May HERE – the latest podcast, covidcast … twitcast … just realised it not only stands for two women in Tenerife, or three women in Tenerife as and when it is, but also for a Twice Weekly Internet Talk – cast … and today is fishing, facemasks, border controls & more. 

14 May podcast is HERE – rules, phases, whistling and herd immunity.

11 May Twitcast is HEREThree women in Tenerife this time, as Clio and I are joined by Diana McGowan.

Updated 7 May: I think Monday and Thursdays will end up being the main days we record a podcast, and today’s is HERE. In future, I’ll just put links above (reverse chronological order) as and when they’re done and update the post without further comment. I hope everyone is enjoying these and finding them useful and interesting.

Original post 4 May: Since Clio and I have now established our regular twice-weekly podcasts, I’ll make this post for links to them. We still haven’t decided what we’ll end up calling them! At the moment they’re “covidcasts” but there will come a time when the name no longer applies, we have to presume and hope! We have time, I imagine, to determine the future name and I openly admit I like Two Women in Tenerife (or three women if we have a guest podcaster) … and Twitcast has a friendly feel to it, I think … hopefully no-one will think we are actually twits …

Anyway, HERE is today’s covidcast, and I’ll put earlier links below.

30 April
27 April
21 April
17 April
14 April
9 April
6 April
3 April


  1. You could call it (Dos) Tías en Tenerife….

  2. Author

    now that would be a storm in a (tea)cup … 😀

  3. Or maybe Tenerife Twitter or Tenerife Tweets? I am sure there are some very creative people in your audience

  4. Tenerife Titbits? Oh…. perhaps not…. come on folks, make your suggestions!

  5. Tenerife Witt

  6. The Witty Girls

  7. Janet, listened for first time to the podcast (4 May – on beaches, pavement protocol, wizz air etc) and found it very interesting , thank you.
    Don’t know the technical issues but, if I may, I think it would be even better if you were a bit louder and Clio not so loud?

  8. Author

    Thanks Dennis, the first ones were very much trial and error, I think, and now anyway Clio’s able to return to use the actual studio of the council’s radio station – and we have an actual producer too! – so the recording quality will certainly be better than our earlier casts when we were both operating from home!

  9. The Podcasts are a fantastic addition and very informative.

    Thanks very much

  10. I have listened to all of the podcasts and they are indeed useful, Janet. Some weeks, many things change so it’s good to here the clear discussions that you have and hopefully they will mean some people won’t need to raise questions on your other threads.

  11. Interesting question from Clio about driving to go swimming. Unless you know otherwise, I guess we still can’t drive to where we wish to conduct our chosen sport during the sports allocation timeslots… For example, I am not allowed to drive from Adeje to go surfing on the coast. However, I believe I can drive to play tennis or to a gym appointment outside of sporting hours. Do you understand this to be the case? Maybe it will get clarified under President Torres’ review of time slots….

  12. Author

    I think we can drive to the coast to do whatever we are allowed to at the particular bit of coast we’re going to. If a council is allowing swimming I see nothing to stop us driving there for a swim – and that can be, as I understand it, in addition to the exercise we’re allowed out near our homes to enjoy.

  13. I live in Urbanisation San Francisco, 38683.
    I want to drive to El Varadero and walk the sea walk from there to Alcala. I would be crossing over into another municipality….. is this allowed?
    I’m getting mixed messages from various websites.

  14. Author

    no, because exercise must still be done direct from home within your time slot. If you have a specific reason to go to Alcalá that is different, but if you’re just “going for a walk” then that is still under the terms of the de-escalation phases and the estado de alarma.

  15. Have any councils opened beaches for swimming yet?
    Someone told me Los Cristianos harbour beach was open?

  16. Author

    Yes, some beaches are open. Everyone needs to check with their local councils as to what is permitted and on which beaches. Please see 3 May update HERE.

  17. Can you tell me if there is any changes in the rules regarding the opening of community pools
    Do they need to be supervised at all times if open

  18. Author

    I’ve explained the rules above for recreational pools, along with the information that most will not comply, in the opinion of the Association of Administrators. Please just read “Updated 23 May” above.

  19. If there is a God can we please keep our pools closed until late August at the earliest, then perhaps we can keep all the second home owners from Santa Cruz etc. away – it’s so peaceful without them. They forget that other owners actually live in the building! (been an owner for over 30 years)

  20. Janet, you seem to assert that banana production is significant in the economy but it is tiny compared to the service industry, which dominates.

    The Cabildo de Tenerife says this: “Industry is scarce, representing about 7 or 8 % of GDP, mainly in agriculture and food sectors, tobacco, and oil refinery (at the oil refinery in Santa Cruz de Tenerife).”

  21. Author

    Which is what we said! Of course tourism is big, but agriculture is called the primary sector. Nationally as well as regionally. In any case,7-8% of GDP compares quite well with 12-15% of GDP for tourism (albeit across the country so that will be a higher percentage here in the Canaries), and I don’t see 8% as “tiny”. And as I stressed, I use “banana economy” as a shorthand for agriculture generally. And it is significant internationally, however niche it is. Our foods and wines are the stuff of international gastronomy fairs and reputation. I see absolutely no justification in playing it down, as you appear to be trying to do. Quite the opposite, in fact.

  22. Isn’t tourism and all the services linked to most of the rest of GDP in Tenerife, i.e. about 10 times all other industry?

    That is how I interpret the statement on the site. They play down the other 8%, not me. I was surprised at your use of “Banana” economy because each time I go more and more plantations are closed, so I did some research. Hard to find a number for tourism GDP but I find things like this:

    “In spite of being an agricultural society not long ago, the primary sector barely has any weight nowadays. Banana, tomato and cucumber are the three main products while tobacco production is entirely for exporting.

    Farming and forestry are even less important. The industry and construction do not have a big impact either, although the latter is showing signs of recovery.

    Thus, the economy of Canary Islands relies in the service sector, especially in those activities related to tourism (Instituto Canario de Estadística – ISTAC, 2019).”

  23. Author

    Isn’t it funny that when we talk about tourism needing to reduce and evolve, the “traditional model” people all come out with “just be positive” and all will be well and return to normal, that cheap mass tourism is all we have … and implicitly all we can have. I have a different view, and would turn that around to “let’s just be positive about evolving into a new model not just of tourism, but of agriculture too”. Tourism as in the 70s and 80s was a departure from the 50s and 60s model. It’s lasted well. Now it is time to move on.

  24. The 50s and 60s model was the Jet Set were the only ones who could afford to fly to Tenerife and yes it was still mainly agricultural because there weren’t many of them. The likes of us went by train to Scarborough!

    As with all things selling a large number cheap makes more money than selling a small number to the super rich. And nowadays the super rich own their own islands, so they won’t be back.

  25. Blimey Chris, you went on, A TRAIN! you must have had a few bob, we went from our Gran,s house in York on a “orse n cart” to Scarborough, 3 days to get there, a day on the beach, then three days to get back, a weeks holiday over! yes the orse was knackered when we got home.

  26. Hi Janet
    I understand you have a new Podcast
    Can you tell me what it’s called please?

    I’ve had a search but can’t find anything right now

  27. Author

    It is here, Dave, I’ve moved your question to the post where I update and give links every Monday and Thursday.

  28. Very much enjoyed the podcast today Janet. It was very helpful with a clear summary of the current mask and smoking rules.

  29. Can you get travel insur through a spanish company that wont be affected by f c o guidelines

  30. Author

    I’m not an insurance adviser but I understand the policy needs to be in the country of departure, so wouldn’t have thought it possible.

  31. 😭😭😭

  32. Wishing you a speedy recovery Clio.

  33. To Clio: I assumed you had had a ‘medical episode’ – a few weeks ago you mentioned a hospital visit. I hope all goes well and you’ll soon be back in harness kicking up you heels again. Best wishes for speedy recovery.

  34. Take care and make a speedy recovery Clio.
    Missing you.

  35. For Clio
    looking forward to hearing your thoughts on all developing situations when you are well enough. Enjoy the time out during your recovery while living in these wonderful Islands. Take care & stay safe

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