As you will see HERE, this website is a place for the environmentally responsible. It should be obvious what behaviour will be welcomed.


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    Just added a new podcast to the CanaryCast page … see the little menu to the right.

  2. No idea if anyone is even interested anymore….. If you have the miCitaPrevia app, you can happily now make your appointments for your Booster dose of microchips.
    Open miCitaPrevia, select your name or the wife/husband/parrots name, select the centre you want to attend, (if you have a choice like us), the middle item on the left is Appointment for vaccination COVID19, “request an appointment on site”, you’ll then be offered a date, select the one you prefer OR “More Dates”, then choose your time. Take your health card. that was all we needed. Not asked for TIE etc.

    It was our lovely Sinister Doc again today…. Great fun and a good laugh while he stabbed us.
    (For those unknowing of the “Sinister” part…. He has no right arm.. (He’s quite ‘armless’), and “Sinister” is Roman for Left,

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      We’ve both been boosted, thankfully … and today the Canaries has a record 1482 new cases, 1,000 of them in Tenerife, just a week or so after crowds were encouraged to fill the coffers for Plenilunio, Noche (in fact Semana) en Blanco, and the Fería de Artesanía. Not only coffers being filled … coffins will be filled too. At what point does encouragement of crowds for others’ commercial gain become culpable homicide?

      Oh and Omicron is already in the Canaries, around 80 cases presently, vast majority in Tenerife. Some serious people in virological circles are now considering that although genome sequenced in South Africa, it could well have originated in the UK where conditions have been made perfect for such a variant to emerge.

      1. Glad you’re both ‘done’.
        Not surprised it’s got a hold there… won’t be long before we soar too I guess.
        As for origin in UK…. I’m surprised by nothing coming out of there now. Honestly, I’m glad our children didn’t book as planned to come to us for Christmas. Apart from the aparrent EU wide lack of enthusiasm for the arrival of Brits, even their own Prime Liar is behaving incredibly stupidly.
        Sudden;y taking off all the Red Countries? I wonder if that had anything to do with MPs who do so love the sunshine in some of those countries? Perhaps my cynicism has caught the virus too…..

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      no, sorry, I have no idea why it’s doing it … it’s the official Gobcan site so they’re clearly having problems with it. It has no connecion wih me or my site, though, so I can’t help, unforunately.

      1. OK. Thanks for your reply.

    2. Liam. It wont work on my wiped either. Hasn’t done for months now. Use a PC/Mac and you’ll be fine!

      1. OK. I’ll try that. Much appreciated.

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    Christmas podcast from Clio and me now uploaded … quick link HERE.

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    Thank you Tina. Where it might be discussed is anyone’s guess. At the moment, in respect of covid, Tenerife has only just gone up to level 2 even though our figures a week ago were sufficient for it, but we had three major events to host in the areas where the most powerful regional politicians hold sway, and so we were kept out of level 2 and kept in danger for commercial reasons … in my opinion, and it’s very very hard to escape that conclusion given all the factors involved.

    These same powers are calling on everyone to “help deal with” the issue of migration but their idea of help is moving it on somewhere else (sharing it around Spain/Europe/anywhere else), or blocking it with border control motor launches at sea. There is, to be fair, little that can be done on a regional level because it needs not just a national but a global response and the main response necessary is climate-related.

    That is not going to happen because of the vested and political interests involved, and this is why I urge a real and honest conversation about how we help these poor souls, what we do with them, and how we avoid being so inundated that we ourselves can no longer live in any realistic way. At least we can start by not being so damned selfish but even on a personal level, my mailbag shows that that is simply not going to happen either.

    I don’t know. I despair. And I resort to writing these pieces, like my latest post on the True Cost of Travel in 2021 as a means of personal expression of that despair in the main because I fear few are listening. Yet. Maybe they will at some point and the dialogue will start. All we can do is do what we can. I can write and I have a certain reach … and of course I practise what I preach because the biggest problem is others’ hypocrisy.

    Thank you for the support, it really is very welcome!

    1. Well said Janet. The true cost of travel in terms of loss of life and damage to the environment is astonishing. Politicians could not care less ; they are afraid of loosing votes not of life.
      Have a safe Christmas and Peaceful New Year

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        You too Paul, and thank you.

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    I agree with Paul. We are lucky enough to live on Fuerteventura and have been speculating what is going to happen about all of this ostrichness the world seems to have going on. We knew as children in the 70’s that we needed to change our habits but as time went on …. well you know. Where will this subject be discussed please Janet? We have a few ideas of how we can help our island society perhaps. Thank you for taking the time to compile and write this piece, it is so well thought out and written.

  6. So many themes in your recent post Janet. The loss of life is unspeakably tragic and the sight of children especially, freezing at borders is heartbreaking, you just want to be able to scoop them up and bring them to safety. Travel during a pandemic as a strand is also something I don’t understand and, for me, another rolled over flight in February will leave without me. In terms of flights in general in the face of climate change I too was a great user of trains rather than planes. Before retirement if travelling from Scotland to London on business I often – when I had any say in the matter – opted for the train because, as you say, door to door journey times were pretty similar and I could settle down and get some meaningful work done on the train. In terms of leisure travel I can include a holiday by rail to Italy where I had a rail ticket from Larbert to Rome! I also managed to travel home from Nice to Scotland in one day using an early morning TGV from Nice to Paris, followed by Eurostar to London and then an evening service up to Edinburgh. A particularly enjoyable family holiday to Austria involved a train from Scotland to London, the Eurostar to Brussels and then a sleeper service with German Rail from Brussels. We awoke to wonderful alpine scenery and got off at our resort around breakfast time. I confess I haven’t explored trains to Cadiz (my favourite Spanish city) followed by the ferry to Tenerife. I have never travelled multiple times per year to Tenerife. However, going forward I would think of fewer visits with longer stays within post Brexit rules – pandemics allowing!

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    I notice that the covid figures for Tenerife are 49,400 and have risen by 187 from yesterday. Despite the danger of the unknown omicron variant and an obvious increase in Tenerife figures, the island remains in level 1, and crowd events such as Noche en Blanco in La Laguna and pleni lunio in Santa Cruz are actively being encouraged. It is perfectly obvious that politicians in the metropolitan area of the north of the island are deliberately ignoring public health issues purely for financial gain, and I wonder who gains. This is government by the irresponsible and utterly selfish, and in my view is criminal.

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    Just added Clio’s and my latest podcast to the CanaryCast page.

  9. First, let me say that I get very distressed when I see an animal suffering. It makes my blood boil when I see old and starving hunting dogs in the hills, discarded to die a slow death by some bastard because they are too old to hunt. Equally, I get distressed by seeing half-starved feral cats. But I get even more distressed when I see people feeding them. One specific incident I witnessed was in Callao Salvaje, where there were about three feral cats on rough land near the beach. A woman had set up a feeding station. Two years later the place was crawling with feral cats because, shockingly and totally unforeseen, they were breeding. The feeding suddenly stopped, presumably because the woman had returned to the UK. How nice. She had created a worse problem than when she started, but no doubt pleased with her irresponsible actions. I’m sorry, but this is plain stupid and ignorant. Feeding feral cats is illegal, and with good reason, because it only magnifies a terrible situation.

    Some cat lovers and owners are presumably sensible, others obviously care nothing for other creatures. The sad fact is that cats are a huge menace to other species. It is also illegal to let an animal roam freely. So when cats use the space around a complex swimming pool as a toilet, they just don’t see what’s wrong, and if I ask if they minded my crocodile using the swimming pool, they are usually too stupid to see the point. Sorry, but if they won’t agree to a cull of feral cats, perhaps they should arrange a cull of the well-meaning idiots who feed them.

  10. We should not and must not forget those who went before us and unselfishly served our nation in order that our futures could be secured. I believe that it is everyone’s duty to ensure subsequent generations understand and respect what we all owe to those that have gone before us.

    My father was 18 years old when he was serving aboard HMS Woodcock in the anti-submarine escort group throughout the Battle of the Atlantic during WW2 under the command of Captain ‘Johnnie’ Walker. Dad would rarely speak of his experiences other than, when pressed, express his thoughts and sorrow for the poor bastards (his words) below the waves as the powerful depth charges that his ship had deployed exploded, shaking his ship on each occasion. Of course, he was talking about the German U-boat crews.

    His ship was also in Tokyo Bay for the Japanese surrender. Ashore he took pictures of the devistating aftermath of America’s nuclear bombing. I still have his photos of Hiroshima. He also witnessed those that had survived the horrors of the Japanese prisoner of war camps and I think that experience played had a huge on him and his realisation of the true horrors of war.

    We can only ponder the hardships, fears and terrors that they must have experienced. May they all rest in peace.

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    I admit I have always been puzzled as to how they avoid contamination of sea salt by other chemicals, not to mention waste products such as plastic and whatever is pumped into the sea by nearby sewage works. Their website given as a link in the post is quite interesting, and wiki has the fascinating comment “Black lava salt is a marketing term for sea salt harvested from various places around the world that has been blended and colored with activated charcoal. The salt is used as a decorative condiment to be shown at the table.”

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    The presence of helium is from the point of view of physics really exiting, although I guess the residents of La Palma see it differently. The element was not known on Earth and identified as an element in 1868 because of its unrecognisable spectral lines in spectrographs of sunlight. So this new element existed in the sun, hence its name. Later they identified it on Earth as a product of radioactivity, but it is thought that it can only exist at a depth which represents the lower limit of the Earth’s top mantle. I am only mentioning this to explain the reason for their stating that it comes from a depth of at least 600km. Explained nicely in THIS article for those of you still awake.

    1. Thank you very much for the link to the article. The geoscientists must be very exited by the discovery of the emission of helium in La Palma.

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    Anybody interested in an explanation of what is driving the volcano in La Palma might find THIS article in El País of interest. Unfortunately, it has not yet appeared in the English version, but the graphics are superb even if the text might be a challenge for those not fluent in Spanish. On the other hand, it does offer a great opportunity to learn Spanish vocabulary related to volcanology and science in general. It is by far the best article about the volcano which I have read so far, and the video taken from a drone is amazing.

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    Had a few questions lately about holidaying here, people asking about QR codes for travelling and the 90 day rule …

    Apart from the fact that the info is on the website and there’s a search box, I have made my stance abundantly clear, eg HERE, a post edited so recently it is only third on the homepage, and so enquiries are clearly coming either from people who just want that instant personalised response without reading anything, or they’ve read and decided to ask anyway. If you have questions about travel your answers are on the following link. Not here.

  15. A call to the Canary Islands. What an incredible read!
    You should have been in Glasgow now launching lifeboats instead of those hopeless politicians who turn up under false pretences making promises they have no hope of keeping. How can these discussions succeed without the participation of the most serious offenders – China and Russia ?

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    An interesting article HERE in the Independent is reporting on an issue which could have serious consequences for British travellers to Tenerife as well. A woman was denied entry into Spain because on returning from a previous visit she did not ensure that the Spanish border control stamped her passport with an exit stamp. This meant that there was no record of her having left Spain at that time, so she was considered to have overstayed the 90-day allowance. On this basis she was refused re-entry to the country. The significance of this for Tnerife is that if a non-resident overstays their 90-day visit, they either get an exit stamp which will prevent them from re-entering, or no stamp at all which will have the same result. The 90-day limit is shown to be real, and the consequences apply, exactly as foreseen though disbelieved by many.

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    I have always had a very low opinion of politicians generally, because they usually have massive egos and their lives consist in feeding these pathetic monsters. They are at their very worst when they attempt to comment on a situation which is of scientific nature, where experts in the field are honest enough to admit they have no idea what might happen. For some reason, a politician will never admit to not knowing something, which is rather ironic considering how little they know about anything other than their own careers. Anyway, Canarian President Ángel Torres has said “… he was sure, however, that the volcano won’t get the better of the people of La Palma”. This seems to be standard bollocks for a politician – a statement of certainty based on explicit uncertainty from genuine experts. How the hell does he KNOW that La Palma won’t disintegrate entirely, just because it is highly unlikely? And he gets paid a lot more for spouting bollocks than scientists do for saying something honest. Something badly wrong here.

    1. It is a bit rich for Mencey to criticise politicians for talking “bollocks” when he/she seems to be well able to emulate them.
      Surely it is part of the rôle of a politician to give a positive message to his constituents. Would Mencey rather Señor Torres had issued a statement saying “the experts have said they do not know what will happen in La Palma. So without wishing to cause you concern, the volcanic activity may gradually reduce or, equally possible, the island of La Palma will disintegrate in an enormous explosion and all the inhabitants will die.”
      Give me a break.

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        Yes, I agree you do have a good point, in that he does have to say something, and that something does have to be comprehensible to his wider audience. I’m not so sure that a politician’s rôle is in fact to give a positive message – they should give honest and accurate ones. But I find the disingenuity of statements made by politicians intensely irritating. If a politician is asked in an interview “Do you think X will happen?” his or her response is always “I hope so” or “I hope not” said with total confidence, giving the impression they actually know something. In reality it means “I don’t have a clue” but they never say that directly.

  18. Having read the suggestion from President of La Gomera, Casimiro Curbelo, obviously the best alternative plan would be to fly over the volcano and drop him, not a bomb. That would at least save a fortune in a wasted bureaucrat’s salary.

    1. No, no. I feel the bomb idea has merit. If Señor Curbelo stands where they want the lava to go and waves vigorously, they’ll have a definite position on which to drop…?

  19. Thanks again for your day-by-day follow-up on the volcano front! We follow it closely before our trip to Tenerife next month.
    Quick question, maybe you will have an idea – Could any of the earthquakes under La Palma have an impact in terms of seawater level rise at La Gomera or Tenerife? I read in your latest posts that the m4.9 quake could be felt in the two islands. I wonder if more significant impact can happen on the shore?
    Thanks in advance

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      The larger the event, the more widely its effects are felt, clearly. Sea level rise though, no, at least not more than a specific surge in response to a particular seismic or volcanic event. Sea levels will rise over the next 30 years, however, but as a result of the climate emergency, not seismic activity.

  20. The dogs are safe? Let’s hope the rumours are true!
    If so….
    Thank the stars it appears there ARE still some people around who think like us!
    I must applaud whoever it was for taking the risk and doing what, were I younger and more importantly there, I would have happily done whatever the risk.
    And bravo also to the Guardia Civil for their attitude to it!

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    The Independent has a report HERE about the four gentlemen who took selfies. It seems to be a strange and curiously English habit to boast about being a total arsehole, obviously proud of disregarding rules and not remotely intent on doing something constructive in a situation which is terrible for those affected. But no, total selfishness is the order of the day for some.

  22. Oh damn. I tried to ignore this, really I did.
    The plan to airlift these poor hunting dogs nearly got refused because somebody thought “It might be illegal”…??
    I’m sorry. As a human being and ex Railwayman, this stuff scares me. These are living, breathing, flesh and blood creatures that are at risk of death. A horrible death at that.
    Rule books? Seriously? Has mundanity reached so far into the psyche of ‘humanity’ that we need to check a rule book before we save someone/something?
    I mention my railway past for good reason. At the time I was on the rails, the rule book was the main thing drummed into you as a trainee, and for good reason. Safe operation relies on the same thing, done in the same way, repeatedly. But! When chaos strikes, when life is in danger, when normality is suspended by some catastrophic event…. Then, and only then, as here and now on La Palma, logic, common sense and an overriding humanity takes the place of that book!
    An old railwayman, the man who was making sure that I was a fit and capable person to hold peoples lives in my hands, asked me what the most important thing was on the railway. I answered with “The rule book”. He was less than impressed. He said, “Yes, that’s what they say. But I’ll tell you now, once and once only. The rule book is there for one reason only, and that is to make you think carefully before you break the rules when it becomes necessary.”
    When it becomes necessary is when, like now, lives are at risk. Doesn’t matter whos or whats!
    Sorry… rambling annoyed rant finished.

  23. Thank you so much Janet for continuing your informative and illuminating updates. It must be really hard to keep on reporting on something so painful and difficult for the people on La Palma with no end in sight.

    Know that it keeps us connected and able to send our heartfelt wishes for everyone’s safety and strength in their trials.

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      Thanks Christine, that’s good to read. It is hard, particularly when it is so disastrous for those in La Palma and yet there’s no end in sight, and help must be temporary because the situation is constantly changing and you can’t do anything as a permanent solution until you know what things look like at the end. I hope at least throughout the eruption to shed some light on various aspects of life here that some mightn’t think about normally, particularly when we’re so known for tourism in its several guises here.

      1. Particularly moved by your description of the telescope’s closed eye this evening, and continuing to wish for clear skies for you all soon.

      2. Still reading….. harrowing watching the videos, even from so safe a distance. Glad to see that more permanent plans for the future are being formulated, as people come to the realisation they are never going back. That’s a level of grieving that is hard to comprehend.

        So thank God, at least, for the humour around the apparent miracle of the dogs. Very relieved…. I was never impressed by the idea of struggling dogs being carried across metres of scorching lava by a drone.

        Thanks for keeping up your reports Janet.

  24. I quite agree about feeling unsafe. While there are different rules in the different home nations of the U.K., compliance now is an issue. So while in Scotland there is still social distancing required in particular contexts and the wearing of masks here remains a legal requirement on all public transport and in all indoor public spaces, including shops, increasingly many people are behaving as if it’s all over and in shops and on buses it’s routine to see a good number without masks while enforcement now seems nonexistent. However the Scottish government still is encouraging homeworking and Scottish secondary school pupils must wear masks in school including in classes. So it’s a mixed picture here but a large part of the population seems to have stopped taking measures to mitigate against transmission. I think I would feel safer actually in Tenerife but have once again delayed plans to travel.

    1. Hi Moira, I totally agree with you. I too live in Scotland where generally we are better at complying with the rules however, I notice the older generation are the ones who don’t wear a mask or do under their noses. I think they feel it’s not necessary since they have been vaccinated but many people are getting covid despite having been jabbed. The government are dragging their feet, as usual, about not making wearing face masks. Someone wrote in the Metro that they had just returned from Spain where the law was upheld far better than UK. Even although I have had my booster and flu vaccination, if things keep going the way they are, I won’t be surprised if I have to cancel our trip to Tenerife next month.

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    Apparently hardly anyone is bothering in the UK any more, according to two friends who have just been in the UK and felt very unsafe as a result, and the consequences are clear in the figures with Spain recording 1,807 new cases over the last 24 hours compared with 39,730 in the UK. Here in Tenerife, however, we still have facemasks indoors and even outdoors if 1.5m distancing can’t be observed … and national Health Secretary Carolina Darias has said today that we can expect this situation to continue well into next year throughout Spain because we have winter coming and that will bring the usual respiratory conditions even apart from covid … and so masks remain. I for one am pleased and applaud the sanity. All my friends are the same … hence my friends, of course …

  26. Something very movingly poignant about the guardia capturing 150 understandably freaked out tropical birds, to move them to safety. Illustrates perfectly your comments on ‘all hands on deck’.

    From the very safe distance of Scotland, it is hard to see the increasing spread of lava and ash in the midst of no way of knowing how and when this will end. Perhaps harder after the previous day’s reporting of a stabilisation in activity. Like you, I expected to turn my attention more fully back to things closer to home.

    Glancing at the endless stupid comments from around the world on the live video feeds from La Palma, before switching them off, I thought that perhaps Joseph Campbell had got it wrong.

    ” When real trouble comes, your humanity is awakened. The fundamental human experience is that of compassion.”
    — Joseph Campbell

    But looking at the parrot video, maybe it is about contextualising his words to the place where the trouble is happening.

    Wishing La Palma many experiences of compassion to help get everyone through these troubles.

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    I’ve just added this week’s podcast to the CanaryCast page … it includes a bit of a Brexit burn … sorry not sorry … but Clio has come up with “LaVa Land” for the Hollywood movie type eruption we are most obviously concerned with. What a brilliant name!!

  28. Wow!!! Thank you Janet. Catching up with your blogs was a great lesson in volcanology, as well as factually descriptive of the situation in La Palma.

    Now my go to place to know and understand what is happening in La Palma on a daily basis, although we can never truly know what the people of the island are going through.

    Keep safe wishes for all.

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      Thanks Christine, it’s lovely to read “know and understand” because that’s exactly what I try to do, not just give the information but try to contextualise it, or analyse or explain it. Obviously only my own perspective but at least I can give that.

  29. Thank you Janet,
    again you come to our aid giving us vital information of the devastating situation in La Palma.
    You helped us all with the virus problem and now
    being in retirement (well deserved !! ) you take the time to keep us informed.
    Again, thank you !!

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    Fascinating to read Mencey’s post on the El Pais article about the volcanological and geological history of the Canaries, particularly about Los Abuelos … earlier versions of these islands that seem to arise and decline through time, which Lanzarote might be the first of the current batch to show us. Simply amazing.

  31. Ahhh. A touch of the Phreatomagmatics eh?
    I tell you something… Much as I have great sympathy for the vecinos of La Palma, my scrabble scores are getting much better!

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      That’s not surprising if you play using 15 letters at a time.

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        As a useful addition to somebody’s Scrabble vocabulary, if not already included, is the information that initially the lava flow was of type Aa (Hawain = rough), but which has now changed to Pahoehoe (= smooth). All explained in this excellent article in El País which has a spectacular drone image too. It also explains why the lava below sea level will partly convert to glass, with a bewildering non-explanation of the difference between vidrio and cristal.

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        for the not-playing-Scrabble-but-cooking readership, the Aa appears to me to be like rock cake mix and the Pahoehoe like sponge cake mix … perhaps we’ll have a Hoehoehoe type for Christmas …

  32. Hi Janet, I admire your thorough and high quality writing about the volcano eruption. I really do appreciate your dedication and communication skills. Thank you very much for sharing your insights and research with us.

  33. You might not be a news service, but you are doing a better job than most news services of providing clear, concise, non-sensationalist information on La Palma. Thank you.

  34. Hello Janet. I know you are not a news site any more but I just want to say thank you for taking the time and trouble to keep us updated on what is happening on La Palma.

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      Thanks Mary, for me it’s a regional environmental story to end all regional environmental stories … as long as the same doesn’t happen with Teide!

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    Just updated the CanaryCast page with today’s podcast … obviously the only subject right now is La Palma’s eruption.

  36. What? No drastic tsunami?? (INVOLCAN STATEMENT)
    Dammit! We’ll have to find something else to replace the panic with.
    How about exploding Australian nuclear Subs? Any mileage there?

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      May I remind you that we live in the European Union? Any reference to outdated idiotic imperial measurements smacks of a stupid yearning for an empire created by a warped British interpretation of history and is to be condemned as mindless fantasy. So no mileage please, it’s kilometerage, and the UK has been inching towards metrification for decades with little success, only to regress into the stone age. They will be bringing shillings and pence back soon.

      1. I’m amazed they haven’t already!
        Can’t remember where I saw it today… possibly the British Bullshit Corporation… The ‘Government’, 🤣, of the UK is going to legislate to bring back pounds and ounces for purchase weights….
        That should confoozicate anyone under about 40 for a while.
        I’m sure the great British Brexiteers will be delighted to see that their destruction of ‘The Old Country’ is going swimmingly.
        The Ningi is also set to return too I understand…. Although it’s exchange rate of 8 Ningis to one Triganic Pu May have slipped a little since Brexit

      2. Inches are still widely used in agricultural – all the old water pipes are measured in imperial.

  37. I’ve just caught up with your interim CanaryCast and it was great to hear you and Clio again. I’ve missed my regular catch up with news and views from Tenerife. It maintains a link with the island. I’m looking forward to the regular CanaryCasts resuming. I note that you’re thinking of a shared broadcast from your garden complete with chickens. I am bereft of any poultry puns but wonder if you remember the old warning about working with children and animals? In terms of the dangers in involving chickens in broadcasting, did you catch the news item last week involving Douglas Ross, the Scottish Conservative Leader, being drowned out by one of his chickens while Zooming in from home to question the First Minister in the Scottish Parliament? The film is available on You Tube and he subsequently posted a photo of the miscreant chicken who, to be fair, did us all a favour.

    1. Sustainability: Originally, meant making only such use of natural, renewable resources that people can continue to rely on their yields in the long term. The concept of ‘sustainability’ comes from forestry and originally meant something like: using natural resources mindfully so that the supply never runs out. (information taken from Wikipedia: Sustainability)

      Sustainability is not only environmental, but social and economic and are interdependent. If it is not economically viable, society collapses and nobody is interested in the environment.

      Tenerife’s original “Unique Selling Point” in the 15th century was geo-political; It was on the trade-route between Europe and the Americas and in its time, producer of sugarcane, rum and cochineal. Today, Tenerife is not geo-politically relevant and its USP is not so clear. Yes, it does have a temperate climate that is good for tourism, but what else does it have?

      Possibly it might be easier to list what it doesn’t have and what is not viable. It has no meaningful mineral resources and therefore industry is not a viable proposition. It is not on a trade route, so commerce is not a viable proposition or environmentally desirable.

      Agriculture and fisheries are important, but the number of people employed is insignificant.

      The Canary government spends millions every year advertising throughout the world the benefits of visiting Tenerife; sun, sun, sun and report the numbers visiting the islands and how much they spend. Quantity, not quality. How about a bit of diversity? Currently there is a push for digital nomads. But what about the older generation who stay 90 or 180 days, or all year? I believe, per person, they employ more people and contribute more to the island economy than the all-inclusive hotels.

      The all-inclusive hotels belong to international groups that are located off-shore and therefore pay no taxes in Spain. The all-inclusive room charges never see the islands. The poorly paid and overworked employees are the only ones paying their taxes. The only money the municipal councils see are; service charges, licence fees and council taxes.

      I doubt if the islands see one percent of the all-inclusive room charges. Smaller, locally operated hotels see more actual income, pay more taxes and the customers spend money all over the islands. Tourism may be an economic driver, but I don’t think the islands are getting all they could. I am for locally earned income being taxed locally.

      Apparently, tourists spend about €100.00 per day per person. This I think includes hotel fees. If the islands only got 5% of that figure, it would be a lot more than what they are getting now.

      It would be nice to see some real figures.

      Coming closer to home, does Tenerife really need 31 municipalities? I am not thinking about reducing the number of municipal staff or services, but reducing the number of politicians and their demands on space and resources. According to Ley 27/2013 Acto de Racionalización y Sostenibilidad de la Administración Local, municipalities with a population smaller than 20,000 were recommended to merge. In Tenerife there are 17 municipalities that fall into this category. Could we have closer to 20 municipalities?

      Possibly then, with less politicians, we might see an improvement in re-cycling, less use of plastic, a more efficient water supply and a working and complete sewage system. To be honest, I don’t know how we get so many blue flags. Where does all the sewage go? If there were more sewage works, there could be less inefficient and costly desalination plants.

      I accept that for geological reasons, reservoirs and cisterns are not really a good solution, but I live near a barranco and the amount of runoff flowing into the ocean with all that silt seems to be a waste of precious resources.

      Possibly, with more water reserves, agriculture could be reinvigorated so that the islands are more or less self-sufficient and hotels and restaurants could advertise with pride “locally grown produce”.

      Possibly also then the children would be interested in completing their education because there was a job to go to. Education is everything.

      Sadly, the unsustainable tourism does have a lobby that spends a lot of money convincing local government that unsustainable tourism is good and beneficial.

      Janet is correct, we have to be loud and clear what sustainability means for the HAVEN Tenerife.

      I found this link very interesting:

    2. James O’Brien’s analogy with the people on the bus hurtling towards the cliff edge is in my opinion slightly off: We as bus passengers have no access to the steering wheel or brakes – It doesn’t matter how many people want to stop the bus or steer it away from the cliff edge, we can’t. The controls are locked away and buried in parliament. It’s the politicians or the financial backers behind them who are in control of the steering wheel and brakes. Only when the financial backers and puppet politicians sense there is no money to be made in the path they are taking, will they put their feet on the brakes and steer the bus away from the cliff.

      Actually, the problem doesn’t end there; the companies and organisations financing the climate change are backed by shareholders who are only interested in making a profit NOW!

      Even worse, the managers and board members of those companies and organisations have a legal responsibility to ensure that the shareholders make a profit. Not enough profit and the managers and board members are voted out of office by the shareholders, or even worse – go to jail.

      Only when governments, companies and shareholders can be held legally responsible and convicted of harming the environment will things change!

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        Agreed. But this is why, in terms of the analogy, it is imperative for people to try, at least, to grab that steering wheel. It’s even more important if the means to do this are blocked off from us, and indeed if they are locked away from us as the UK Government is trying to do to the British public anyway, Patel seeming to want to make protest illegal. Johnson has even joked (privately but on record) that she is intent on turning the UK into “the Saudi Arabia of penal policy” … bad taste, given what that country is known for doing to its own people but Patel seems happy enough with the reputation as an utterly heartless and soulless politician prepared to countenance policies that aren’t just borderline illegal but which actually fully violate international law.

        What an attempt at grabbing the steering wheel looks like is the real question, for me. Is it boycotts of businesses whose shareholders simply will not put greed aside for the good of everyone (including themselves!), or is it putting glue on your hands and sticking yourself to a bridge? How can those who see the situation for what it is and don’t want to go over the edge stop that bloody bus and its headlong career towards the cliff?

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    Any further news on the uk to Spanish
    Driving licence extended date 31 october 2021.
    I was letdown by one of the ( can change your driving licence firms )
    Spain driving test at 69 a no no in Spanish .

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      Please see THIS post. Although I am no longer posting “news” stories such as this because this is now a “sustainable future including travel” website with posts appropriate to that model, I can confirm that the situation it depicted in June remains unchanged.

      For reference, in case you weren’t aware, Motorworld has now taken over Diana McGlone/McGowan’s One Stop Problem Shop. They are official Tráfico collaborators and will be perfectly able to advise you further. The website is HERE.

    2. Tom, as a new 70 yr old non speaking Spanish Brit , I , to save 2 visits to Trafico plus Spanish only forms took my lawyers advice and let him deal with it officially. It costs yeah but all done properly with pece of mind . Good luck , Gerry

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    Humans as a species have existed for a blip in planet Earth’s timeline.
    Planet Earth does not need us. Sadly, we do not realise that we need
    planet Earth. All civilised cultures have forgotten how to live with
    nature, not taking more than it can give, always leaving something for
    the next generation.

    Planet Earth is cyclic in nature (pun intended), and always has been. We
    have had warm spells and cold spells. Flora and fauna has had to move to
    follow these changes or die out. Civilisations have flourished when the
    conditions were good and perished when the conditions were not so good.

    We have had several major extinction events where at times, more than
    90% of life became extinct, but somehow, life continued and enabled
    different species to become dominant. Sometime or other, the human race
    will have outlived its usefulness. We do not have to be sentimental
    about this.

    Due to tectonics – volcanoes and subduction – in a few billion years
    there will be little or nothing to show for what the human race has
    produced. Let us hope that the next intelligent species look after
    Planet Earth a bit better than we didn’t.


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      John: “Sometime or other, the human race will have outlived its usefulness.” It is not clear to me what the usefulness of our species is. Please enlighten me. It seems to me that our species lives to the detriment of every other species except perhaps dogs, cats and various (other) parasites. And a few chicken.

      1. Usefulness is subjective and a metaphor.

        All living things have randomly mutated to their current form from a single-celled organism. This random mutation will continue, for better or worse. Those mutations that are not self-sustainable will perish. Where is there usefulness and purpose?

        You may argue that there is a food-chain and it has to be maintained. Others have other arguments.

        It is all very philosophical.

      2. Life just happens if conditions allow. The ‘usefullness’ of that life has no reationship or impact on the emergance of any life form. It just occurs. Take dinosaurs as an example, useful?

        But even in those times intelligence and strength dominated the pecking order. We’re no different but our intelligence allows us to destroy on a much massive scale. Just goes to prove rhat ntelligence and being intelligent are not synonymous.

  40. Janet
    Sorry to introduce a note of mundanity into our new scientific conundrums.
    You’ll hark back to the days when we were all getting our vaccinations? Your reaction was different to mine, was different to Sheilas etc.?
    Well, to elaborate on our trip report last weekend… we appear to have brought a few million little devils back with us!
    (We both have Covid19 for the hard of thinking)
    Anyway… as to reactions to vaccines. You’ll remember I was just a little discombobulated for two days whilst Sheila ignored the whole thing…. and that is exactly replicated with the actual virus.
    It made my nose run and gave me a cough for a couple of days before quitting in disgust. Sheila tested positive on Monday this week and, apart from aching slightly in her bones for a couple of hours on Tuesday, is apparently untouched by the thing.
    Bearing your reaction to the vaccine in mind, your reclusi-osity may indeed be a good thing!
    Stay safe on the mountain!

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      glad you’re feeling better, Jon, and I would think your minor-key experiences with covid itself are in no small part due to the fact you were vaccinated to begin with. Really good to hear, though obviously not that you actually got the bloody thing at all! It’s like Ray says, travel is the problem … used to broaden the mind, now many have closed their own minds voluntarily so no need, especially when the virus is everywhere. Only yesterday I was reading some opinion that covid was only just starting with the world just as the entire population of the north west hemisphere thinks it’s all over!

      1. Believe me when I say, we didn’t want to go. However, events conspired etc….
        Apparently, a house in the midst of a forest in the triangle Basingstoke/Newbury/Reading is now insanely desirable and a must have… so legal stuff had to be signed. However, it has, at least, guaranteed our future here.
        I cannot reconcile the removal of the ability to broaden the minds of the young. All our futures depend upon their understanding of the problem and their own ability to cooperate with their peers to find the key to sustainability.
        The planet will, eventually, cleanse itself and the cycle will restart. Things like the plains of Nazca will once again be left to puzzle the future man. Perhaps next time they’ll think closer to home than the ‘Alien Airport’ theories of the lines. Perhaps they will think, hang on…. Perhaps they won’t.
        If we’re so desperately overcrowded, why are we vaccinating? If the Gulf Stream is indeed about to fail and civilisation about to put its head between its knees and kiss its butt goodbye, why are we interested in the lifeboats? Any escapees from that disaster will destroy our haven here, long before any way to prevent it can occur.
        As to forthcoming episodes of the current soap-opera.. …, with just 205,822,170 cases worldwide out of a population of 8billion? Yeah, I’d say there’s a long way to go.
        I’m not religious. I’m too much of a realist for that. But IF there is a plan, it was a doozy!

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        because we have to keep moving forwards while we survive … and because in too many places reality is being denied anyway. And yes, a doozy …

  41. Couldn’t agree more about selfish environmental irresponsability. To me that includes the perceived right to fly anywhere on the globe to holiday. Sit on a sunny beach. sea sun and sangria.

    My wife and I would always holiday in the UK. Many good times spent on Bournemouth beach with our children (and we took our rubbish home) Good times. Times that prove to me that international holiday travel is not an essential requirement and needs to stop.

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      loved Bournemouth, as did my mother. Couldn’t agree more Ray.

  42. Your not wrong Moria but a bigger issue/obstacle is us, humans. We want what we’ve got and more besides, we are entitled and demand more and are totally selfish We all talk of climate change and taking care of the planet but we continue to trash and polute our environment. We are the problem. The pandemic has demonstated these traits very well at a human level. Then you have the likes of China building coal fired power stations to grow it’s economy but claim they will be carbon niteral by 2060. Far too late.

    But the real issue, the absolutely huge elephant in the room, is population. The planet cannot sustain the numbers we have now let alone the future. In the past 70 years global population has tripled and it’s growth is not stopping. That is the real problem but I’ve yet to see a politician, or anyone else, raise it as an issue let alone disuss it. Not suprising really because who’s going to get elected on the basis that at least 60% of us need to go? And if 60% were to go then so would the lifestyle that we enjoy today because their would not be enough of us left to sustain it

    I know my rhoughts may appear gloomy but I believe it is reality and proven by history. Man (humans) are destroyers.

    People speak of ‘saving the planet’ but that is not the issue. The planet will survive. It’s got billions of years to do so. What people really mean is ‘save the human race’. Us as a species. To be frank I disagree. We are the problem and the sooner that our species is wiped from the surface of the earth the better.

    1. and Ray think you hit the nail on the head 100% agree, it’s not doom and gloom it’s probably the real problem

  43. I can’t argue with most of your analysis Janet but I fear that you are a voice in the wilderness. I have long come to the conclusion that politicians – of all stripes – are interested only in the short term and cling to policies which will win them the next election. They can’t seem to see beyond that and cannot bear to work with other parties in the national, let alone the global, interest. Add to the politicians’ shallow and vain interest in power apparently for power’s sake the cynical and vested interests of large business, then I am afraid that I am very pessimistic. What I can’t understand as the climate change chickens apparently come home to roost decades sooner than these parasites anticipated is why these politicians and business moguls apparently don’t care for their own children and grandchildren even if they don’t care about the rest of us? As for the wider public, the level of social and political awareness within society appears to have plummeted. Folk can tell you the life history of all the contestants on Love Island but don’t know who the U.K. Leader of the Opposition is – the modern day version of bread and circuses. I applaud your efforts to begin a conversation and to raise awareness but at the moment I am at the point of despair over much of what I am witnessing in the world right now and the impotence of our supposed ‘leaders’ to address any of it.

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      which is why politicians and commercial sectors are the last that the post is addressed to. I do not care if I’m a voice in the wilderness. What I will no longer be is complicit by allowing blatant selfishness, environmental irresponsibility, and bigotry to go unchallenged in my life or on this website.

    2. Totally agree Moira, very well written and of course so was Janet’s original post
      When we first moved to Tenerife we rented a villa in del duque – very expensive but thought was what we wanted, so tried it out – after 6 months bought a farm away from everyone and then a few months after that all the land surrounding it – we changed direction and decided we wanted to be self sufficient (not meat)
      We grow potatoes, carrots, broccoli, peppers, lettuce, cabbage, onions, garlic, tomatoes, sweet corn, peas, beans etc etc have a big green house plus areas outside fenced off to stop the dogs destroying , although allow 25% for whatever eats the crops not sure what it is either rabbits, lizards, rats or mice or maybe those Turkey type birds, we will start chickens this year only for eggs as none of us would be able to dispatch them, prefer to keep as pets if they don’t lay
      We have water actions – no idea how they work, nobody has been able to explain, so rent them back to the water company and they pay us
      We spend all day tending to the plants, watering 3 times a day as one time our water lines and actuators failed and everything was dead within 2 days
      After all that work 1kgs or carrots is a euro in Lidl but we spend months growing to get a few kgs but at least home grown, brócoli grown at home best tasting but costs a lot more in our time and effort
      EV’s as far as I understand battery’s are only good for 350-500 charges and if fast charged that declines, can’t see enough renewable energy to ever make them work – could be wrong of course and happy to be corrected
      It’s a very hard to find the right balance as we’ve experienced self sufficient actually seems to cost a lot more, but the rewards at the end are well worth it, but if I’m totally honest it’s probably better to go and buy as needed, although I won’t give into that 😀 so there’s a cost involved with saving the planet, which is possibly part of the problem?
      Only my experience so far

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    Some comments removed … you can talk about “getting back to normal”, carrying on as before, however you wish to put it but as I have already said that is not happening. You might as well get used to it. Janet is taking a break and is planning some change in direction on this site, the direction of which is solely hers to determine so the gaslighting of “yes it’s her site but …” can stop now. The change in title is only just the beginning. Watch this space.

  45. Jon loved your trip report (still working on what is Flex it) 😂😂, as for Ray – you are the one that needs to give it a rest not Jon and not Janet, I also fought to keep UK in EU as I work and so will my children in different countries throughout EU – basically you are a Hypocrite, living in EU and stopping our future generations having a better future and being able to do the same

    You believe anything you hear clearly, like Keiths FAKE NEWS – since when has Northern Ireland been part of Great Britain, maybe you both read it on the side of a big RED BUS, seriously get a grip and an understanding of the real world, not your little Britain

    Janet’s website is a blog / news site and her own she can write as she likes – you don’t like it, then move on she’s not paid to do it

    Never should have let these uninformed people allowed a vote as this is how this all happened, believed anything, rather than the reality, Northern Ireland part of Great Britain – says it all they are part of UK!!!!

    and if you want to repyl Ray, let me / all of us know the benefits of Brexit so far as you voted for it, not us

    Janet you’ll know who I am, I emailed asking about working abroad more than 6 months at a time as this has impacted myself and my family very heavily though we’ll never regret living in Tenerife, and now running a rescue centre for dogs 😉

  46. Haven Tenerife? Have I missed something?

    1. Author

      No, you haven’t missed anything. Janet is taking a break and is planning some change in direction on this site. The change in title is only just the beginning. Watch this space.

      1. Author

        An easy view for clarity as to the confines of UK/GB. Great Britain and northern Ireland form the United Kingdom. Without northern Ireland, the UK is GB.

        uk gb

        This one is more informative, no doubt totally unnecessary because all Brits know where they live, don’t they?


  47. Ok. A story of a trip to Ingerlund…
    Departing on Friday 30th July and returning today, 6th Aug.
    LPA to BRS by Ah be jasus airlines.
    Covid test for entry to England, €70 each at Eurofins at GC airport. (In TFS too)
    Two x 2 + 8 day tests in England, £79.99 from Expert Medicals.
    Two return fares from Ryanair, €60 the pair.
    Breakfast on board both ways, €36
    Car rental from Hertz, €323 the week.

    Tests at Eurofins. Great service, nice folks.
    2 & 8 day tests…. Nice and cheap, but you get what you pay for. Sundays day two test results arrived THURSDAY evening and only after I complained. Avoid.
    PROS. Good price and only €7 to upgrade to priority and a cabin bag.
    Left on time, arrived on time there and back.
    CONS. Although breakfast booked for two, no one had checked. One bacon roll and a chicken salad sandwich ain’t a breakfast. But it sufficed. Same on the way back.
    And when I say “One Bacon Roll” that was the sole roll aboard!
    BIG CONS. Paperwork checks….errrr, no. “have you got…?” “Yes”, “ok, carry on”
    Coming back… “Have you got the app?” Yes we have. Ok, get on.

    Car Rental from Hertz…
    Ok. It was a car, it was clean, it had a tank of fuel. But the Car Rental Centre is NOT “Within walking distance of the terminal”. It’s on airport land in much the same way as the Isle of Wight is in Hampshire…. It’s a bus ride away. Naturally it rained when we returned the car at 3am to a ghostly Parking spot 🤣
    As for coming back today…. no one checked a damn thing until we were within the terminal at LPA.. No one.
    Yes. Our passports WERE stamped outbound AND inbound at LPA. Even though we presented TIEs first.
    Don’t care.
    Spain has made it clear it makes zero difference to anything, but I did ask why….
    I won’t post the answer I got because someone will instantly cry about it. (Five letter acronym. Rhymes with Flex it….)
    So. All in all. We achieved the trip we had to make without drama. So be reassured. You CAN go back and forth if you need to. It all works, at least for we residents.

  48. Hi Moira
    Thanks for that.
    Will look into that too.

    We’ll get it sorted.

    Incidentally , yesterday I asked one of the specialist companies recommended on here just why their charges were so expensive; answer “because no-one else will offer insurance in these circumstances”.
    I understand greed, but don’t like it much.

    Same car, same driver, same house; if I did say 6.25 months in the UK and 5.75 months in Spain before taking residency in Spain , and now switch to the reverse of 6.25 in Spain, and 5.75 in the UK, that is 2 weeks LESS use in the UK than before, but my specialist premium goes up by £300 minimum.


  49. Hi again Dennis – having put in my tuppence worth the only thing that now occurs to me – before you rush to get rid of your U.K. vehicle – is that I don’t know if car hire firms have an age limit in terms of who they’ll hire a car to? Does anyone know? I have remembered you mentioned you were over 75 and so if there were such an age limit and you do need your own transport when visiting the U.K., there may be a need to bite the bullet and retain your U.K. vehicle despite the high cost.
    Also Keith, I may have misunderstood your meaning but I thought that it WAS the U.K. which included Northern Ireland – ie The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland – whereas Great Britain referred only to the larger island (England, Wales and Scotland)?

  50. Just read the 4th Aug piece and agree 100% with the comment made by Steve Baker.

    His statement on twitter called it a political fiasco, which it was and still is. Conveniently the word ‘political’ has been dropped, edited out, ignored (call it what you will) by the remainer world. But hey, that’s life.

    As for “free trade, free movement, and peace in our time”. Give it a break.

  51. Thanks Theresa. I’ve tried to access ‘home’ under the menu selection but access appears to be blocked for some reason at the mo, I just get a cross ✖️ when I try. I’m sure it must be a temporary glitch so will try again tomorrow.

  52. Thank you very much Moira (and Dave) (and Ray0 and all for your helpful advice. Much appreciated.
    Stay safe

  53. I must agree with Moira. On the few occasions we return to the UK we rely on public transport or hire a car if necessary. When we moved here 14 years ago, we decided that, living in Los Cristianos, we would not need a car as the bus network was sufficient. Likewise, we hire a car on those occasions when we need one.

  54. Ray – look on Janet’s general blog under Home that MAY be where whatever is in question is answered.

  55. ETIAS is a good process. The USA has a similar online scheme. Works well and the UK should consider something similar. As for ignorant UK tabloids, nothing new there, but don’t make the false assumption that UK citizens are also ignorant of how the EU works. Most are fully aware of those facts.

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    Commenting on the ETIAS system, the Guardian has an article HERE which describes how the UK fully supported the charges being brought in. Anybody who claims these charges are somehow an attack on the UK by the EU is clearly totally ignorant of the procedure by which the ETIAS system was devised. Such claims are of course indicative of the general ignorance of how the EU works, and from the way the tabloid press is reporting, this is widespread in the UK.

  57. Hi Dennis, depending upon how often you return to the U.K. and how long you spend there and how many days you would drive, it may be far less hassle to sell the U.K. vehicle and use the money to hire a car for U.K. visits. When you factor in U.K. road tax, MOT, servicing plus the enhanced insurance premiums, the combined costs would surely go a long way towards car hire? At one point I had considered purchasing a car in Tenerife once I had retired and could spend more time on the island. However over the years the number of vehicles on Tenerife roads has increased dramatically and driving cannot be described as a pleasure. I always used to hire a car for my entire visit to Tenerife but in recent years I have used the buses and would hire a car if I needed to for a couple of days or to show visitors around the island. I know it is galling when you have a perfectly good vehicle garaged at your second home in the U.K. but overall I think it would be far less hassle to hire a car using the money you’ll save from keeping the U.K. car ‘on the road’.

  58. As for obtaining car insurance. As we know, in the UK named individuals are insured unlike here where the vehicle is insured. UK law requires that only residents can be a named person. It’s always been that way both pre and post brexit. So the issue is simply a matter of residency and not Brexit.

    The same goes for life insurance. May also apply to other policies but I don’t know for sure. The only option is the expat insurance route but as others have said it does not come cheap.

  59. Janet did not post anything in these comments on 4th August Jon. Maybe that is why I did not read it!

    Her last post here was 31 July which I did read and responded.

  60. Just to finalise, by saying that Keith Michael DO still offer cover in these cases, but of course it is expensive.

    My wife had incorrectly given them details of another quote (when in reality it was the existing policy which had been cancelled) so they had wrongly taken that to be a quote with which they could not compete.

    NOTE: Their Insurance cover STARTS at £500, which is a very high cost (especially if you only use the car in the UK for say 2 months in a year!).

    Thanks all.

  61. Ray
    Might pay you to read Janets comment of 4th August to which I was replying? Or perhaps not as you may read something you don’t like.

  62. Ellen.
    I am of course very happy for you that you did your research etc.
    I have to say that we did consider the decision we made based on what we believed was best for the country, not so much for ourselves.
    We do accept the outcome and are not asking for any change to the decision.

  63. Thank you, KW and Jon, for your suggestions.

    We have actually already tried Keith Michaels with no luck. It looked ideal from their website but they just simply replied that they couldn’t help!
    I asked them for a reason and will post it if I get it; could be it is because we are over 75 (but all the main UK insurers we have tried so far were happy with the age, just not happy with the residency).
    I will try the other one. Many thanks.

  64. It sometimes amazes me how many people actually believed everything they were told without actually looking for information regarding the ramifications of the UK leaving the European Union.
    I personally read as much information as I could possibly find well in advance of the vote.
    We are given information on a regular basis about various topics but the onus is on us to make sure we understand how it affects us.

  65. Give it a bloody rest Jon. This forum is about In Tenerife. We all know your an avid remainer and nothing wrong with that but Brexit is done and dusted so please get over it, stop banging your particular drum and keep posts relevant to what’s going on here on this Island.

  66. Dennis, I am a Tenerife resident. My husband and I also have a UK address where we stay when visiting elderly parents, children and grandchildren. A couple of years ago my parents were no longer able to hold UK driving licences due to age and health. I transferred the registration of their car into my name and our own UK address. It was obviously pre-Brexit but I have insured the car via this insurance broker:- Keith Michaels PLC, Central House, 1-15 Central Road, Worcester Park, Surrey, KT4 8EG. Web: We deal with Jason Robery Tel: 0208 329 1150 Direct line: 0208 329 1168. They are using the insurance company Ageas Groupama to insure the car and the last annual premium was £575.00. It’s insured for me and my husband is named driver. We are both 63 years, hold Spanish driving licences and have no health problems. It was probably not as cheap as if I was a UK resident but still half the price of what my parents had been paying due to their age and deteriorating health before they gave up their licences. May be worth getting in touch with them? We have been happy with the service so far.

  67. Re the fiasco of Brexit I do so wish I hadn’t just glibly trusted the stated advantages (which I haven’t seen taking okace) and not worried about the disadvantages of voting no….it is my fault. I was duped. I was misled by liers.
    I trusted that I was being told the truth and the whole truth. ..but that wasn’t the case.

    How I do regret voting to leave.

    Even now, having gone through all the procedures and costs and delays of becoming a resident of Spain, yet more problems are now coming to light of which surely only the most studious might have been aware.

    I am talking about my wife (also a resident in Tenerife) returning to our UK address a couple of weeks ago to see her 3 children and her 4 grandchildren after a 10 month stay here in our Los Gigantes home) only to discover that , after quarantine) she could NOT drive our own insured and tested and taxed car , in our own garage in our own uk home of many years, because of the fact that the major insurance company that we use immediately cancelled our existing live policy – just because we are resident now out of the UK.

    We have NOT yet find a way to get insurance cover.
    Anyone have a legal work-around or a solution please?

    Of course, it is all because we chose to reside here, but we did that, really, because of bloody Brexit..

    How I hate Brexit now, for many reasons, but the fact that I can’t drive my own uk car to visit my family in the UK really brings it to attention.

    Rant over.
    Cut off his head.


  68. Brexiteers call their own Brexit a fiasco….

    Well! How very dare they! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  69. Hi all
    As Janet and others have commented extensively over the past 16 months enforcement of Covid restrictions has been a serious issue and alongside irresponsible behaviour has had a significant implication for many who are following the rules
    After viewing properties over a several weeks our Friday flight home was cancelled so we were overnighted in a hotel in Adeje
    20m from our room on a piece of waste land behind a bar the area was being used as a nightclub with 75/100 people partying beyond midnight- no masks, no social distancing
    The hotel was asked by ourselves and others to call the police but nothing happened. It would appear the hotel had given up reporting this regular occurrence
    In exasperation I have sent full details to the British Counsel with a video of the nightclub in action
    I hope readers of this will not lambast me for reporting it in this way as talking to elderly couples either side of our hotel room neither had slept properly over many days and one were in tears telling us this having had no help from the hotel

  70. I am delighted to say that I too won a holiday from the Cabildo and can’t wait to start choosing where to go. I was astonished to get notification of it on a difficult day. 😃🎉

  71. Sounds like a great event to be part of – that terrace with a view and excellent hospitality and company.

    Can we not meet up in groups of 15 or so and form a fighting force for good?

    If not, good luck anyway!

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